VA to Accept New GI Bill Applications May 1

By Terry Howell

News from the Department of Veterans Affairs GI Bill Website:

“Starting May 1, 2009, the Department of Veterans Affairs will begin accepting applications for the Post-​​9/​11 GI Bill. The application form is available online.”

“The form requires that individuals currently eligible for another education benefit make an irrevocable election from their existing program to the Post-​​9/​11 GI Bill. Typically individuals who are eligible for more than one benefit may use a combined total of 48 months of entitlement. Therefore, for those individuals eligible for the Montgomery GI Bill (MGIB) program, please be advised that if you have entitlement remaining under the MGIB, the number of months of Post-​​9/​11 GI Bill entitlement you will be eligible for will be equal to the number of months remaining under MGIB. However, if you exhaust all of your MGIB entitlement, then you may be entitled to a maximum of 12 additional months of entitlement under the Post-​​9/​11 GI Bill.”

“Starting May 1, 2009 VA will begin processing applications for Post-​​9/​11 GI Bill benefits and you will receive a letter explaining VA’s decision regarding your eligibility for the program. Payments for the Post-​​9/​11 GI Bill will not be processed until August 1, 2009.”

Click here to access the application form which includes instructions for submitting completed applications.”

FYI - Those who are using the Montgomery GI Bill (Chapter 30) and do not plan to switch to the Post-​​9/​11 GI Bill will not be required to submit a new application (VA-22–1990 or 22–1995).

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LEARN MORE:

Please read the other blog entries on the Military Education Blog or visit http://​www​.military​.com/​m​o​n​e​y​-​f​o​r​-​s​c​h​o​o​l​/​g​i​-​b​i​l​l​/​l​e​a​r​n​-​t​o​-​u​s​e​-​y​o​u​r​-​g​i​-​b​ill to learn more. In addition you should go to the VA website www​.gibill​.va​.gov or call 1–888-GIBILL-1 to get the information straight from the VA.

Do not rely on the comments below, while some are accurate, many are not.

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“However, if you exhaust all of your MGIB entitlement, then you may be entitled to a maximum of 12 additional months of entitlement under the Post-​​9/​11 GI Bill.“
What does this statement mean, if one uses ALL of the 36 months of Chapter 30 then they can use a additional 12 months of Post-​​9/​11 GI BILL.….I’m confused, clarify someone, thanks.

Hi Bill, That is the million dollar question. It appears that many, not all, dual qualified veterans may have the opportunity to extend their benefits by 12 months. However this is still as clear as mud. I am working to get an answer and will share what I find out. Until then call the VA and ask them at 1–888-GIBILL-1.

The old MGIB is chapter 30, and the new Post 9/​11 MGIB is chapter 32. I believe the statement above is stating that if you have exhausted all of your “old” MGIB chapter 30, you may still be eligible to recieve an additional 12 months of benefits through the “new” chapter 32 MGIB. I would contact your local navy college or equivilant to verify.

Just to add, the chapters I listed before are for active duty if I recall correctly. I believe reservists fall under a different catagory.

What about the VEAP? is this included?

I believe this statement applies to those who have exhausted their MGIB Chapter 30 benefits PRIOR to the Post 9/​11 Gi bill start date of August 1, 2009. For those who are currently using their Chapter 30 MGIB and chose to switch over to the Post 9/​11, then their remaining months of entitlement left under Chapter-​​30 will determine how many months of Post 9/​11 entitlement they will recieve until their entitlement for 36 months is exhausted. In other words, those who used up their MGIB chapter 30 benefits (total of 36 months) prior to August 1, 2009 may get an additional 12 months; but those who still have months of entitlement left under MGIB Chapter 30 will ONLY recieve the original entitlement of 36 months total whether they remain with MGIB Chapter 30 or switch over to the Post 9/​11 GI Bill. Personally, I could not comprehend what the difference is between those who used up their entitlement and those who still have months of entitlement. why would they recieve additional 12 months? and those who have remaining entitlements wont. I contributed my 1200.00 and also paid the 600.00 kicker.

How does any of this apply to me as a 30 year retiree (retired in 1997) with a daughter starting college. I used few of previous GI bill ed benefits. I am being asked to return to active duty and this bill could be a big factor. LSW

Contact the VA directly for any questions… Only they will give you the CURRENT, accurate information… Post 9/​11 GI Bill (Chapter 33), MGIB(Chapter 30), MGIB Selected Reserve(Chapter 1606), Reserve Education Assistance Program (REAP — Chapter 1607), Chapter 32 (the Post-​​Vietnam Era Veterans’ Educational Assistance Program (VEAP).
Every, and I mean every individual scenario is going to be different for elections with the Post 9/​11 GI Bill. Benefit eligibility, entitlement, school location, state education benefits, and education goals all factor into the decision. DO NOT make an election without speaking to a VA representative about your options. Contact the VA, do not trust your school adivsor to know which option is best for you!

I have been out of military service since 1971 and have used all of my educational benefits. Do I qualify for the extra 12months of benefits under thePost-​​9/​11 Gi Bill?

Is someone still entitled to the GI Bill if it was declined upon entry into the military if that was 10 years ago and they are still active duty with no break?

The new Post 911 GI Bill is Chapter 33.

Hey Curtis Watkins! What don’t you understand about POST 9/​11 Gi Bill? Post means after

Hey AFdude. Do you feel better after belittling Curtis for asking a simple question?
Read this http://​calacanis​.com/​?​s​=​a​s​p​e​r​ger

Just to catch some of you up:
Post 9/​11 is not available to those who served and got out prior to 9/​11/​2001.
It is also called Chapter 33.
MGIB is Chapter 30.
You can learn more by reading the rest of the blog entries or going to http://​www​.military​.com/​m​o​n​e​y​-​f​o​r​-​s​c​h​o​o​l​/​g​i​-​b​i​l​l​/​l​e​a​r​n​-​t​o​-​u​s​e​-​y​o​u​r​-​g​i​-​b​ill and following the links to the Post-​​9/​11 GI Bill.
And you can also get the info at http://​www​.va​.gibill​.gov or calling 1–888-GIBILL-1.

If an individual was eligible for the VEAP, never enrolled in the program and elected not to take the GI Bill when VEAP was converted the the GI Bill and retired from the service after 9/​11 are they still eligible for this program?

To Dan:
Yes, if they meet the minimum requirements like 90 or more days active service etc.
Whether a person turned down VEAP, MGIB, MGIB-​​SR or not are not factors in determining eligibility.

If I currently in school now under the Montgomery G.I. Bill do I need to fill out an appilication for the Post G.I Bill.

I’m a 22 year active duty Limited Duty Officer with 2 years remaining obligated service (will probably do a 30 year career) and want to pass on my GI Bill benefits to my 18 year old son who would start community college this August.
I found the Application for Transfer of Entitlement (Form 22–1990) but it says I must first “The service member’s military branch must have approved the request to transfer benefits. The eligible service member must have designated you by name, the number of months transferred, and the period for which the transfer is effective.” Where do we get that done? I’ve been to the VA website and called their 1–888 number but found no answers to that question.

Do you have to pay anymore if you opt for the new gi bill?

Brian — The DoD must determine how they are going to manage transferring benefits. They will then report to VA who is or is not eligilble. The VA can do nothing without the DoD finalizing the process.
Stand-​​by…

Deuce — please follow the links and read about the porgram. No one has to pay for the Post-​​9/​11.

Raphael — If you wish to switch to the Post-​​9/​11 you MUST fill out the application and submit — AFTER May 1, 2009. Contact your school VA rep for assistance.

I’m trying 2 get informaton about this bill I have been out of the Air Force since 1979. please contact

Neverette — If you left the service in 1979 — this does not affect you.

I have 18 months left on my MGIB, but I’m retired since Dec 31, 1996. Can I still transfer 18 mos to my wife or children?

I am a mobilize reservist,I ETS in 2011, but would more than likely reenlist for a few more years.I know that the MGI Bill expires after 10 yrs,I have been on Tilte 10 since 9/11,filled out an application for the MGI Bill (doesn’t recall paying into MGI Bill​.Do I have to fill out a new application for the 9/​11 MGI Bill?

I am attending Excelsior College (TA) is paying for my classes. Can I use the MGI Bill(9/11) to attend another college which is not under the EArmyU program?What kind of paper work is needed to apply for the 9/​11 MGI Bill?

I am retired and have not used any of my ed benefits yet. Have $2700 in VEAP. I want to apply for this MGIB chapter 32 (post 9/​11). Am I qualified for this. How can I do so?
thanks

It doesn’t really makes sense to me at all. I don’t understand why the 12 months extension is for those who already exhausted their 36 month benefit prior to August. Why if you have just a month or two left? I think giving everyone who are under the old GI bill and those who never used any education benefits to a 48 months entitlement to make everything easier.

I was activated with the USAF Reserves for a year 03–04. Can I transfer my VEAP or REAP to a child?

I was activated for 1 yr 03–04 with the USAF Reserves. Can I transfer my VEAP or REAP to a child?

i would like to join the military and be a partof our war because i will love to help fight for our country

FYI — This New GI Bill does not allow you to transfer MGIB, VEAP or REAP benefits.
This bill ONLY applies to those who have more than 90 days of active service since 9/​11/​2001.
It is Chapter 33 not Chapter 32.
You can learn more by following the links in the article than you can by asking questions in this forum.

I have time remaining under the MGIB,how can If find out if I am eligible for additional time , and if this time can be used by my dependment.

I lived in michigan, and have moved to wyoming because of the economy, and plan to move again to florida. Can I use the new GI Bill in any of these states?

Wayne — yes. It is a federal program. Your eligiblity is not determined by your state residence.

My girlfriend and I both are retired sailors with 6 years post 9/​11 service and currently live together, are we both eligible for the stipend living at the same address? We both have other dependents and just had a child together. Also are married retirees eligible individually to receive the stipend? Thanks.

I have two kids overseas, they don’t have, American resident or citizenship, neither social security number how can I transfer my benefits to my dependents. Thanks

Darrell — The benefits are yours not based on married status or whether your spouse or live-​​in has his or her own benefits. If you are both otherwise eligible you qualify for the stipend.
And the stipend is not based on your address. It is based on the zip code of the school you attend.

I am an AGR (Title 32 Active Guard and Reserve) Was disappointed to see that my AGR time does not count but my new concern is when does the 10 year clock start ticking for benfit elegibility? Is is from the last date of my federal activation orders or when I leave the Air National Guard?

I enlisted in 1981–1984 under the VEAP program and re-​​enlisted on 5–27-84 for an additional three years, and the U.S. Army never changed my VEAP benefits to the Montgomery Bill. Am I out of Luck?

I think those who served from 1980–1985 got the short end of the stick. Did we not sign up during the Iran Contra? Why are we not entitled to any vet benefits or preference points when applying for govt jobs? What a disgrace.

Bill Samson — It means exactly that — you go to school — use 36 months of MGIB Chapter 30 — Then, if you are eligible for Post 9/​11 GI Bill Chapter 33, you can use another 12 months to a TOTAL of 48 months of Federal education benefits. Great deal — everyone should use up all of their MGIB before using the Post 9/​11 GI Bill.

I am a Nam Vet who didn’t have the time to really attend school. I was Retired under in 1989 and ran past my 10 year mark for using up my educational benefits. Also, when I joined my entitlement was 48 mos. When I retired I lost 12 months under a new bill issued. I think it was th MGIB 30 or something near that. Would I be entitled to any of the post 9/​11 educational benifits. Thanks

Retired in 2004, enlisted in 1984. Put money into VEAP, never used it and withdrew it. Neer enrolled in Montgomery GI Bill.
Confused? Am I still elidgible?

When I enlisted into the Marine Corps I joined as a reservist, well at that time I was instructed that the GI bill was not available to reservist. I augmentented to active duty in 2002 and eas’ed in 2006 never declining the GI bill am I eligible

To Javier Silva,
“If you are not currently serving with the Armed Forces (and at least 90 days), you are NOT eligible for 9/​11 GI Bill benefits.“
Get your FACTS straight before trying to play an authority! You do NOT have to be active duty as long as you WERE active duty at ANY time since 911 for at least 90 days! This includes us retirees that served and retired from 2002 through today!

Can I take a mixture of online courses and in classroom courses and qualify for BAH? If so, how do you determine meeting the full term college student? I don’t want to lose a lot of credits by transferring, and would like the ability to stay with the current college. Is this possible?

javier Silva said:
“If you have declined your VEAP/​GI Bill benefits when you first entered the service, you are still NOT eligible for GI bill, whether or not you have a break in service and whether your retired or not.“
And he’s wrong. Post 9/​11 GI-​​Bill eligibility only requires active service after 9/​11/​2001. Your VEAP or Montgomery GI Bill status is irrelevant in regards to eligibility.
I think Javier needs to actually read the text of the new GI Bill.
http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr;sid=d3a70f712aba4c9da119ba048adaa867;rgn=div2;view=text;node=20090331%3A1.106;idno=38;cc=ecfr;start=1;size=25

I joined in 2004 and got out in 2006. I did not serve enough time to get my GI Bill. Will I still qualify for the 9/​11 GI Bill.

I retired in June 2003, but used all my MGIB in June 1979. Will I be eligible for the additional 12 months?

I’m part of the vietnam veterans, joined in 67, retired in 88, didn’t get a chance to use the GI bill is it still to late for me, I’m still alive and kicking would like to get some more education or have I expired

I used my initial MGIB from active duty Navy 66–69 and finished up school in June 79.
I joined the AGR program in 87 and retired in 2003. Am I eligible for anything? The addiditonal 12 months?

I completed my bachelors degree and exhausted all my MGIB, and from what I have read seems like with this post 9/​11 GI Bill, I qualify for additional 12 months of entitlements. Can I use these entitlements to pay government Stafford loans?

I got out of the military back in Dec 03, I only have two months of the MGIB left. Will I be entitled to the 12 months post 9/​11 MGIB or only the two remaining months?

Many of your questions can be answered by reading the content found at http://​www​.military​.com/​m​o​n​e​y​-​f​o​r​-​s​c​h​o​o​l​/​g​i​-​b​i​l​l​/​l​e​a​r​n​-​t​o​-​u​s​e​-​y​o​u​r​-​g​i​-​b​ill.
In addition you need to go to the VA website at http://​www​.gibill​.va​.gov or call 1–888-GIBILL-1 to get the information straight from the VA.
Do not rely on the comments posted below, while some may be accurate, many are not.
Only the VA can answer your personal GI Bill eligibility questions.

I used the College Loan Repayment program during my enlistment from 2004–2008. Do I qualify for the the New GI Bill.

I used some of my G.I. bill when I got out of the active army in 1993. I have now started online classes and have learned that my G.I. bill benefits have expired. Is there anything out there for vets that have expired benefits.

Will switching from MGIB to Post 9/​11 affect MGIB if I am enrolled in school at the time of the switch?

I was released from active duty in 1978 was inthe Navy for 4 years used my GI Bill for college but Since then Served in the Air National Guard for 26 years P/​T.
I am currently Retired but am not colleting a pension since i am not 60.Question is i am currently unemployed and would like to go back to school is there any benefits for me.
Frank C.

This new 9/​11 GI Educational Bill is great for all those service members who did not use all of thier educational benefits or did not sign up for the GI Educational benefits when they initially came onto active duty. For us old timers from the Vietnam GI Bill who are still on active duty it gives us a renewed opprotunity to reestablish new benefits. This new GI Bill is a God send for so many vets who served on active duty Post 9/​11.

I’m not absolutely clear.
I’ve yet to enroll and use my Post911 benefits. So, must I submit the VA Form 22–1990 to complete the irrevocable election AND later when enrolling submit the 1990 through the normal college enrollment process? Or, do I simply wait until erolling and complete the irrevocable election then?

Paul — If you are not ready to start you may be better off to wait until after the initial rush. But as always you may want to confirm with VA. I think they are going to be swampped starting May 1.

Please refrain from asking specific eligibility questions in this forum. If you cannot find the answers in the links in the article then the VA will be the only place where you can get your personal eligibility questions answered correctly.
Call 1–888-GIBILL-1 or visit http://www.gibill.va.cov to contact a VA representative directly.

Served active Jan/​76 thru Oct/​78 with “Under Honorable Conditions” discharge. Used 9 mos of benefits in ’79. I am currently in school for the past 2 years without benefits (over 10 years). I plan on two more years of school. Am I eligible?

Please send trainers with full knowledge to American legion post to train our service reps so they can efficiently pass the new information and help veterans that need to apply do so. Please start with the American Legion in the federal building in Detroit Michigan and they will in turn hold classes for teaching to spread this valuable information.
Thank You

Wow! This program is going to be a disaster. Lets get real.….people are going to sign-​​up for this program without knowing the ramifications.

I’m really excited about the new Gibill but, it will only help our veterans if the slack ass civilians at your institute will do your paper work and certify you correctly. Veterans don’t waste your time and benefits at ITT Tech.

Finally after 20 years of service I will get some type of educational benefit. I entered the service in 1985, between the VEAP and GI Bill push. My group was not offered either program and everytime a change was made to the GI Bill program, my group was excluded from joining. It is about time we get assistance!! I guess it is better late than never.

I graduated from high school, and I recieved an acceptance letter from the New Mexico academy,and I am waiting for a G.I Bill,because I don’t want to go off island​.So is there any help or am I qualified for this.

Kelly you’re full of baloney! I too, joined in 1985 and was offered the Montgomery GI bill in boot camp. An open season was also initiated probably a year or 2 after 1985 wherein those that did not sign up was allowed to sign up. So don’t be saying that it was not offered to you because that’s not true.

Terry,
Thanks for posting, at least a couple times, direction that eligibility specific questions should not be asked in this forum. Unfortunately, the folks here can’t read. I don’t know how they think they can go to college if they do’t have the smarts to go to the VA website to read it for themselves. Or is it simply a matter of laziness and they want someone else to do it for them? What ignorance or society has breeded.

OMG, i have been reading these questions and i just want to scream.….read people, read. 95% of the above questions are answered on the VA​.GOV website…jeez. It took me 10–15 minutes to read and understand the benefits and ramifications of the post 9/​11 GI Bill.Leave space for the questions that are not answered on the website.

I’m under the 1607 reap program, can I sign up for this 9/​11 I was activated for 9/​11 for 1 year and stayed on on voluntary orders for another 5 years while serving in the USAFR

I am am going to school under CH. 31 vocational rehabilitation program. I called my coordinator and they said they do now know how to make the switch seamlessly. The VA website says talk to your coordinator. What do you do if your coordinator is clueless?

Jason — Don’t be in a rush. The VA has got a lot to sort out still. I reccommned giving it another month and check back in with your coordinator.

If you already use Gibill do you have to reapply for post 9/​11?

Fred — If you think you are eligible you must apply. They will not automatically enroll you.

To echo Patrick Gearhart, we definately got the short end, it should be a life time, but one time benefit for the schooling.

Fred,
Depending on how much you have left in the current GI Bill, you may want to wait to reapply. I only have two months left on the current one and if I reapplied now I would only recieve the new benefits for 2 months. If I exhaust my current benefits, I can reaply and recieve an additional 12 months.

“Don’t be in a rush!!!“
“The program that is best for the individual veteran is not always going to be the Post-​​9/​11 GI Bill.”
I don’t understand this. How can another program be better for me if I want to attend college. Isn’t the reason for the new Post-​​9/​11 GI Bill to pay for any state tuition of my choice?
What other program can be better for me than that??

I retired from acive duty in 1995.
I was on active duty from Jan 31 1970 thru Jul 23 1980. I then reinlisted on Feb 02 1985 and retired on Feb 01 1995. I was able to obtain (almost 4 cr hrs short of) an AS degree during active duty. Once I was out and working in the civilian community, there was no time for school, with a job , and a family life to use any of my GI benefits. My question is, are there any programs available out there through the VA for re-​​training a Retiree? I’ve been unemployed for 15 mos.
Thanks
tgmusnret

has anyone heard anything about h.r. 950? Is it likely that it will pass?

The key to all that was said in this post is the school you want to attend. I want everyone here to go to Capella​.com and look at what they offer. It’s an online school but it’s not like the other online schools you see on TV. This is a real school in Minneapolis Minnesota. Fully credited school that is ranked number 2 or 3 under the GI Bill for accepting veterans such as our self’s. Fact of the matter is you can go to any school you want, it is just being able to actually go to it. I work a full time job now that I’m out of the Army and have no time to go into the class room, and Capella has really worked with me in that aspect. However, there is one problem with the GI Bill. It does not recognize accelerated programs. Most semesters take about 4 months where at Capella it is only 10 weeks. Problem is that the GI Bill will not pay on the schools terms. The GI Bill pays each month and will not Pay Twice in one month even if it is necessary because you going to be starting a new semester. Now if you pay for it out of pocket, I think maybe 8 times in 3 years. You can get that money back from the GI Bill after filling all the right paper work, which takes a long time, but you will have a real credited degree in no time; 2 years if you go over the summer and you will not have to quit your job and can still support yourself and your family. If you need any help about this school, please feel free to email me. I know the GI Bill person at this school (his name is Jon Hayes) and he has helped me a lot I got so much out of him that I feel I need to share that with all of you. Again feel free to email me and ill tell you some tricks I learned along the way.
Jj.

I was discharged in 1982 after 9 years in the Army. I used part of my GI Bill. Am I still able to use any more of it now?

It’s people like that Kimberly S Smith (Apr30 comment) that makes me glad that I finally retired. Probably sat behind a desk all day “barking” orders and telling everyone that life’s not fair to women. If people have questions, Let them ask!!

I served on active duty from 1958 to 1963 and retired from the Reserves in 1999. Am I eligible for G.I. Bill?

I am about to exhaust the remaining of my Active Duty Chp 30 MGIB at the end of the fall semseter, 09′.
In the above statement it talks about “However, if you exhaust all of your MGIB entitlement, then you may be entitled to a maximum of 12 additional months of entitlement under the Post-​​9/​11 GI Bill.“
How exactly does this work? I served for 30 months but less than 36 months after 9/​11. Anyone have any idea how you can qualify for the total of 48 months or 12 months after the 36?

Can some tell me, when they say you must serve on active duty does that mean those individuals that were activated for overseas duty during 911?
I was a AGR under title 32 during that time and continued to serve from 1990–2009 and I was never activated for any conflict(s) duties. I am retired now and would like to know if I can be considered for the new gi-​​bill chapter 33. Virtual MPF shows that I declined the original GI bill. But I never did such a thing and, was never notified about this error.
I did not find this out until I went to apply for school.

Hey guys! What an opportunity. Its great the gi bill has been reformed to a more modern use. I had no plans on using the old gi bill simply because it was not feasible. I do have one Q. When I enlisted, I acquired the GI bill as well as an additional 50k for school. Now.. I have been searching all over for info on this. What happens to that bonus? Anyone have a link or idea?

i am 100%
what do i have to do for my daughter she well finish high school next yr.2010
thank you john

Is the 911 GI Bill transferable to my kid that is about to graduate from high school???

Hey Dave Keys saw you asking about the GI Bill and the 50k college fund. not sure of your reasoning or understood your (modern) comment however I can explain the college fund and how it coincides with the GI Bill since I to have it. Email me at Steven@​CreatingWealthOnline.​ws if you want to know..

What do I have to do to change my GI Bill to my daughter she wants to start college in September 2009 what must I do to make this happen. I would appreciate any help on this matter.

I am an expert on the GI Bill, all programs and can help you determine how to maximize your benefits. I work with military students daily as a military advisor with a large national college. If you want to ask me any questions, I love to help my fellow Vet’s.
Just shoot me an email to matthewmarshroi@​aol.​com

I’m looking into going to Film School in California. I was in the Air Force as a F-​​15 DCC for 8yrs. I enlisted the MGIB, when I enlisted. I got out in 2005, w/​ a Medical Discharge(Back Injury). The school I want to go to is a Technical College, and it being in Los Angeles, how much could I recieve? Or is it better to do the Post 9/​11 GI Bill?

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